economic proposes and policies, they're not much different than they have ever been but to tout them and renew focus on them, it hasn't helped him yet. i'm thinking that the fighting with house republicans and senate republicans, in regard to the looming budget issue and debt ceiling issue, they don't tend to help members about congress but they have also shown that they can drag down the president's approval numbers and that doesn't necessarily help him in terms of negotiating. so it is going to be a long fight. really, jon, until we get back to a case of 250,000 jobs a month, over month, over month, being created there will be, despite a lost good economic indicators there will be a drag in the eyes of a lot of americans that this economy isn't where they want it to be. jon: we have another budget fight coming up the end of sent when the federal budget, federal government will run out of money. >> get ready for another showdown. jon: we'll be covering that for sure, david, thank you. >> thanks a lot, jon.